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		<title>Comment on Heavenly Visions? by growingingracenet</title>
		<link>http://growingingrace.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/heavenly-visions/#comment-13</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can find more information about Akiane at www.artakiane.com or www.beck.akiane.child.prodigy.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can find more information about Akiane at <a href="http://www.artakiane.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.artakiane.com</a> or <a href="http://www.beck.akiane.child.prodigy.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.beck.akiane.child.prodigy.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Heavenly Visions? by DEBBIE PERKINS</title>
		<link>http://growingingrace.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/heavenly-visions/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>DEBBIE PERKINS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PLEASE SEND ME MORE INFORMATION ON THIS GIRL AND HER ART.  DOES SHE SELL ANY OF HER ART?  IS HER ART IN A BOOK?  DOES SHE HAVE A WEBSITE?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLEASE SEND ME MORE INFORMATION ON THIS GIRL AND HER ART.  DOES SHE SELL ANY OF HER ART?  IS HER ART IN A BOOK?  DOES SHE HAVE A WEBSITE?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Heavenly Visions? by Lambertus DeGraaf</title>
		<link>http://growingingrace.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/heavenly-visions/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Lambertus DeGraaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please send more information about this young artist if you have it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please send more information about this young artist if you have it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Heavenly Visions? by Lambertus DeGraaf</title>
		<link>http://growingingrace.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/heavenly-visions/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Lambertus DeGraaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am trying to find out more about this young lady, cannot find her name on the web. Is there more about her anywhere? I think she has an awesome talent. I am also an artist and look to encourage any artists, particularly christian artists. Can you find out her name and any other information about her. thankyou, Lambertus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying to find out more about this young lady, cannot find her name on the web. Is there more about her anywhere? I think she has an awesome talent. I am also an artist and look to encourage any artists, particularly christian artists. Can you find out her name and any other information about her. thankyou, Lambertus</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Christians Suffer by growingingracenet</title>
		<link>http://growingingrace.wordpress.com/2007/02/01/why-christians-suffer/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>growingingracenet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great questions David!  First of all, in regard to what I wrote about our &quot;quest not being for information but to know God better&quot; you rightly deliniate between knowledge of the circumstance and knowledge of God Himself.  Another way I could have perhaps worded that better is to say &quot;our quest is not for MERE knowledge...&quot;
Secondly - I totally concur that true faith is based on knowledge of truth.  Jesus said &quot;I am the truth...&quot; and He says of God&#039;s Word &quot;Your word is truth...&quot;  That God revealed Himself - and this is true whether we think in terms of general or specific revelation - involves the impartation of information/knowledge to us.  We are made in His image, in part, in order to be receptors of His revelation.  There can be no true faith without the Truth.  God has revealed what we need to know of Truth (not necessarily all there is to know)so that we have &quot;all things that pertain to life and godliness.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great questions David!  First of all, in regard to what I wrote about our &#8220;quest not being for information but to know God better&#8221; you rightly deliniate between knowledge of the circumstance and knowledge of God Himself.  Another way I could have perhaps worded that better is to say &#8220;our quest is not for MERE knowledge&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Secondly &#8211; I totally concur that true faith is based on knowledge of truth.  Jesus said &#8220;I am the truth&#8230;&#8221; and He says of God&#8217;s Word &#8220;Your word is truth&#8230;&#8221;  That God revealed Himself &#8211; and this is true whether we think in terms of general or specific revelation &#8211; involves the impartation of information/knowledge to us.  We are made in His image, in part, in order to be receptors of His revelation.  There can be no true faith without the Truth.  God has revealed what we need to know of Truth (not necessarily all there is to know)so that we have &#8220;all things that pertain to life and godliness.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Heavenly Visions? by growingingracenet</title>
		<link>http://growingingrace.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/heavenly-visions/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>growingingracenet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 20:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For someone like me without an iota of artistic talent, such a &quot;savant&quot; is incredible.  It is, in fact, the very incredibleness that makes it fascinating.  When you add in the spiritual dimension it at the same time gives an answer for it (the gift and revelations are from God)and raises new questions like why? and how? and for what further purpose?
What was evident to me is one glaring omission and one glaring redundancy.  The omission?  There was no mention of Jesus Christ.  John 16 is clear that the Holy Spirit leads us to bring glory, not to just some &quot;God&quot; being out there, but specifically to Jesus the Christ.  Redundancy?  Did you notice the paintings of what we assume are the representations of Jesus?  They look just like thousands of storybook pictures I have seen, just better done.  How do we know that is supposed to be Jesus?  Because that is uniformly what the depictions of Him in countless Bible story books and Sunday School classroom walls have looked like.
I don&#039;t know what&#039;s going on.  She seems like a nice girl.  She is an amazing artist.  I hope she has a great future - one that above all includes a personal relationship with Christ.  But as for these marvelous painting - I with Thomas on that one...
Gary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For someone like me without an iota of artistic talent, such a &#8220;savant&#8221; is incredible.  It is, in fact, the very incredibleness that makes it fascinating.  When you add in the spiritual dimension it at the same time gives an answer for it (the gift and revelations are from God)and raises new questions like why? and how? and for what further purpose?<br />
What was evident to me is one glaring omission and one glaring redundancy.  The omission?  There was no mention of Jesus Christ.  John 16 is clear that the Holy Spirit leads us to bring glory, not to just some &#8220;God&#8221; being out there, but specifically to Jesus the Christ.  Redundancy?  Did you notice the paintings of what we assume are the representations of Jesus?  They look just like thousands of storybook pictures I have seen, just better done.  How do we know that is supposed to be Jesus?  Because that is uniformly what the depictions of Him in countless Bible story books and Sunday School classroom walls have looked like.<br />
I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s going on.  She seems like a nice girl.  She is an amazing artist.  I hope she has a great future &#8211; one that above all includes a personal relationship with Christ.  But as for these marvelous painting &#8211; I with Thomas on that one&#8230;<br />
Gary</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Christians Suffer by David Crandall</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Crandall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 02:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ dsl
You are right to be critical of those who use the &quot;Why?&quot; question to imply that (1) God is not sovereign or (2) God is not good.  But God being sad is not mutually exclusive with his sovereignty or goodness.  God can be saddened and sovereign and good all at the same time, and there are many such examples in Scripture.  For instance, was God saddened by the death of His Son? did He mourn over the sin that bought it about?  was He in sovereign control?  was He good to His Son?  did He glory through that evil?  I think the answer is &quot;yes&quot; to all these questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ dsl<br />
You are right to be critical of those who use the &#8220;Why?&#8221; question to imply that (1) God is not sovereign or (2) God is not good.  But God being sad is not mutually exclusive with his sovereignty or goodness.  God can be saddened and sovereign and good all at the same time, and there are many such examples in Scripture.  For instance, was God saddened by the death of His Son? did He mourn over the sin that bought it about?  was He in sovereign control?  was He good to His Son?  did He glory through that evil?  I think the answer is &#8220;yes&#8221; to all these questions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Christians Suffer by David Crandall</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Crandall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You conclude that “our quest is not for information” but to know God better.  I believe you may have inadvertently overstated your case.  What is knowledge but the state of having information?  Even if you took a more philosophical approach to the definition of knowledge, classic Platonic philosophy states that knowledge is “justified true belief” . . . about information.  The quest for knowledge, then, cannot be separated from the quest for information.  If I understand your point, perhaps your conclusion could be better stated that our quest is not for more knowledge/information about our circumstances, but instead more knowledge/information about God.

You also earlier concluded that “it is not okay to substitute knowledge for faith.”  Again, I don’t believe that this is really what you intend.  Faith requires knowledge.  If our faith is not based on knowledge, then it is groundless and useless; it then becomes no more than superstition and false hope.  Moreover, it is desirable to substitute knowledge for faith; more than that, it is required of us.  Is not this the essence of spiritual growth?  We move as babes from a naive and ignorant faith to mature faith by knowing God and growing in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior.  Using your illustration of the empty tomb, wasn’t it critical for the women to substitute the knowledge/information about why the tomb was empty for their faith in the sovereignty of God?  Would it have been better for them to go their whole lives in faith rather than having the knowledge of the reason for the empty tomb?  What God has revealed to us, we are required to know; and it is better to know what God has revealed, and believe it, than to simply have faith in God without knowledge of his revelation.  Perhaps a better statement would be “lack of knowledge should not result in lack of faith,” since if God has chosen not to reveal the “whys” of some situation to us, we must proceed in faith based upon the knowledge of what he HAS revealed. 

These are not merely academic distinctions.  Many in the emerging church movement have seized on these types of ideas (“our quest is not for information” and “it is not okay to substitute knowledge for faith”) to conclude that theology (knowledge/information about God as revealed in His Word) is not important as long as one “has faith” and “loves” his brother.  This leads to a groundless religion, tossed about by every wind of doctrine, sacrificing the truth of God’s Word for the sake of “unity” and fellowship, making Christianity little different than universalism.  I know this is not what you intended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You conclude that “our quest is not for information” but to know God better.  I believe you may have inadvertently overstated your case.  What is knowledge but the state of having information?  Even if you took a more philosophical approach to the definition of knowledge, classic Platonic philosophy states that knowledge is “justified true belief” . . . about information.  The quest for knowledge, then, cannot be separated from the quest for information.  If I understand your point, perhaps your conclusion could be better stated that our quest is not for more knowledge/information about our circumstances, but instead more knowledge/information about God.</p>
<p>You also earlier concluded that “it is not okay to substitute knowledge for faith.”  Again, I don’t believe that this is really what you intend.  Faith requires knowledge.  If our faith is not based on knowledge, then it is groundless and useless; it then becomes no more than superstition and false hope.  Moreover, it is desirable to substitute knowledge for faith; more than that, it is required of us.  Is not this the essence of spiritual growth?  We move as babes from a naive and ignorant faith to mature faith by knowing God and growing in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior.  Using your illustration of the empty tomb, wasn’t it critical for the women to substitute the knowledge/information about why the tomb was empty for their faith in the sovereignty of God?  Would it have been better for them to go their whole lives in faith rather than having the knowledge of the reason for the empty tomb?  What God has revealed to us, we are required to know; and it is better to know what God has revealed, and believe it, than to simply have faith in God without knowledge of his revelation.  Perhaps a better statement would be “lack of knowledge should not result in lack of faith,” since if God has chosen not to reveal the “whys” of some situation to us, we must proceed in faith based upon the knowledge of what he HAS revealed. </p>
<p>These are not merely academic distinctions.  Many in the emerging church movement have seized on these types of ideas (“our quest is not for information” and “it is not okay to substitute knowledge for faith”) to conclude that theology (knowledge/information about God as revealed in His Word) is not important as long as one “has faith” and “loves” his brother.  This leads to a groundless religion, tossed about by every wind of doctrine, sacrificing the truth of God’s Word for the sake of “unity” and fellowship, making Christianity little different than universalism.  I know this is not what you intended.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Heavenly Visions? by David Crandall</title>
		<link>http://growingingrace.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/heavenly-visions/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>David Crandall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 22:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An incredibly talented young lady!  She has produced some incredible art.  It is difficult to say exactly what is going on spiritually given the brief coverage provided by this news piece.  However, assuming that the news piece was not censored for spiritual content, the piece reveals a faith that is directionless and not grounded in truth.  It is a generic faith in faith rather than faith in Jesus Christ, the Lord and Creator of the Universe as revealed in His Word.  The girl&#039;s &quot;visions&quot; may or may not be supernatual/spiritual, but if they are, there is no evidence in the news piece (or in Scripture, for that matter) to believe that their origin is from the God of the Bible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An incredibly talented young lady!  She has produced some incredible art.  It is difficult to say exactly what is going on spiritually given the brief coverage provided by this news piece.  However, assuming that the news piece was not censored for spiritual content, the piece reveals a faith that is directionless and not grounded in truth.  It is a generic faith in faith rather than faith in Jesus Christ, the Lord and Creator of the Universe as revealed in His Word.  The girl&#8217;s &#8220;visions&#8221; may or may not be supernatual/spiritual, but if they are, there is no evidence in the news piece (or in Scripture, for that matter) to believe that their origin is from the God of the Bible.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Christians Suffer by dsl</title>
		<link>http://growingingrace.wordpress.com/2007/02/01/why-christians-suffer/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>dsl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 14:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good message, pastor.

As troublesome as the response, &quot;How could a loving God do/permit this?&quot; is the equally common, &quot;God is weeping?&quot; or some such ill-informed response to tragedy--either personal or national. After every cataclysmic event a reporter will surely find someone (often, sadly, a member of clergy) who will remonstrate that God is &quot;saddened&quot; over what has just occurred. This politically correct response lowers God to our level, as only sightseers. It also turns around your statement--&quot;...it is helpful to ask, &#039;why am I experiencing this difficulty?&#039; &quot;--to, &quot;We need to let God know we don&#039;t like this sort of thing, and expect Him to be more proactive in our defense the next time.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good message, pastor.</p>
<p>As troublesome as the response, &#8220;How could a loving God do/permit this?&#8221; is the equally common, &#8220;God is weeping?&#8221; or some such ill-informed response to tragedy&#8211;either personal or national. After every cataclysmic event a reporter will surely find someone (often, sadly, a member of clergy) who will remonstrate that God is &#8220;saddened&#8221; over what has just occurred. This politically correct response lowers God to our level, as only sightseers. It also turns around your statement&#8211;&#8221;&#8230;it is helpful to ask, &#8216;why am I experiencing this difficulty?&#8217; &#8220;&#8211;to, &#8220;We need to let God know we don&#8217;t like this sort of thing, and expect Him to be more proactive in our defense the next time.&#8221;</p>
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